Chromodoris tinctoria

Geoffrey Van Damme chromodoris tinctoria,30mm 3mtr Blairgowrie.

Ashley Missen Hi Geoffrey this is not Goniobranchus tinctoria it actual a differsent undescribed species - it's to big for G. tinctoria and it has marking on the fott where G.tinctoria does not - Cheers Ash

Lindz Warren Certainly not too big for Goniobranchus tinctorius as it has been recorded to grow up to 95 mm. As for colour - it could be that in this specimen the marginal yellow band appears as spots instead.

Ashley Missen It's the marking on the foot. Dr Richard Willan have talk about this a lot and we both agree it is not G. tinctoria

Geoffrey Van Damme This is the name i got on the sea slug forum Ashley Missen ,they had specimens from Port Pillip Bay.Seems to be some confusion.

Geoffrey Van Damme nudi pix has it aswell.

Alberto Gallucci Chromodoris tinctoria Pemuteran, Bali

Ron Silver Now known as Goniobranchus reticulatus. G. tinctorius is very similar but has an orange/yellow marginal band.

Lala Rute I've seen a mushroom on land like this, lol! Great shot!

Alberto Gallucci Thanks Lala! :-)

Bernard Maglana

Gary Cobb This looks like Chromodoris tinctoria (Ruppell & Leuckart, 1828). It is eating with its buccal mass extended. This species and ones that look like it are a problem to ID.

Mark Connelly a top photo well done

Boomer William Wing Chromodoris-Glossodoris sp ?

Lindz Warren This is a nudibranch mollusc, not a flatworm. Perhaps best to post it to an fb page which concentrates on these like Nudibase. That way you will get more input as to its id. :-) Looks like one of the complex group of 'Goniobranchus tinctoria' species.

Boomer William Wing I totally spaced it out this is a Flatworms FB Group. I'm quite aware it is NOT a FW :) It has been posted elsewhere and we have come to the same conclusion as you G tinctoria complex, also called "Chromodoris tinctoria/reticulata complex.

Lindz Warren Spacing out allowed - we are, after all, only human and not perfect. :-)

Gary Cobb The whole issue on resolving Chromodoris reticulata and C. tinctoria has been a nightmare for quite a while. Some scientists put he two species into one species because it is too hard. We here at Nudibranch.com.au have divided them. There are two distinct species morphology speaking. It would take DNA analysis to differentiate the two. Basically: - Chromodoris tinctoria has has dark brown/grey rhinophores and white gills. - Chromodoris reticulata has red rhinophores and gills and is larger in size. Both can have a yellow margin but it can also be absent.

Ashley Missen There is anthor one I would like to add to the collection from Blairgowrie - Chromodris sp. (3 - Nudibase) with areas of yellow meshing on the mantle and yellow mantle edge with orange spot and yellow markings on the foot also the gills have white stems and orange to red branching -- larger size -- Cheers Ash

Ken Thongpila Thanks Gary Cobb. Great details and easy to understand. Keep on coming please... Love it....

Ron Silver https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=519384234821549&set=gm.446421708811641&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf

Ron Silver Nudibranch from the Seychelles........ID?

Blogie Robillo Beautiful!

Arne Kuilman Glossodoris cincta (west Indian Ocean variation) I believe.

Ron Silver Do you have a reference or any photos? Here's ome info from the Sea Slug Forum but the marginal band colors are quite different: http://www.seaslugforum.net/showall/gloscinc

Arne Kuilman Hmm, I was looking at Glossodoris sp. ,but it's rhinophores remind me of a different species.

Arne Kuilman Glossodoris sp. has many color variations as this page shows: http://seaslugs.free.fr/nudibranche/a_glosso_hikuerensis.htm

Ron Silver Doesn't appear to be G. hikuerensis

Ron Silver Wonder about a color form of Goniobranchus reticulata?

Boomer William Wing I think you're close Ron, I'm still looking but can't buy such a compete shift in the color and pattern on the marginal edge. I'm looking under Genus name Chromodoris now.

Boomer William Wing Found one allot closer Chromodoris albopunctata. http://www.seaslugforum.net/showall/chroalbopc But this does not make it either. Yours has a fading blue margin, not more sharp like all the pics we have been looking at. The blue margin in yours is white spotted as are the Rhino tips. None of those Gonio's or Gloss's have this in any color variation or even these 2 species, spotted margin.

Ron Silver I can't open the link on your reply above?

Boomer William Wing I will fix that

Boomer William Wing http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/1974

Ron Silver Thanx

Alexis Principe Might belong to the Chromodoris tinctoria/reticulata complex since the pattern on the dorsal side is like C. reticulata but different color in terms of margin and rhinophores.

Boomer William Wing Ron Silver I posted it elsewhere and got the same answer as ^ Alexis Principe

Alexis Principe Hi Boomer! I see that you're acquaintances with Richard Ross and Matt Wandell... they were my guests a few years ago during the California Academy of Sciences Exploration here in the Philippines. A few months ago I was diving with Bart Shepherd and Dirk (SECORE Project) when they visited.

Ron Silver Thanx, always nice to get confirmation of what I opined several posts ago. :-D

Boomer William Wing Hi Alexis Principe :) I know both of them very well. There are pics of us together on my Timeline. I have known Charles Delbeek, the Assistant Curator CAS Stienhart for ~ 25 years. Same for Scott Michael. Richard my be staying at my house for a weekend in Dec., giving a local talk here. "Charlie", Jen Veron, is also a friend of mine, although he is not a FB person. That is a bunch of great guys you are diving with.

Alexis Principe I have seen books of Charlie Veron on coral species but haven't dived with him yet, but Charles DelBeek and Scott Michael I've personally met and dived with. They are really great guys that I've enjoyed diving with since I've learned alot of stuff from. Please extend my greetings when you see them and hope to dive with you here in the Philippines. :)

Ron Silver Not routinely in the same stellar company as you, but happy to say I met Scott & Janine Michael while diving at KBR in Lembeh many, many years ago.

Alexis Principe During my early years as a dive guide, Scott and Janine came in a group along with Neville Coleman and Roger Steene. I really learned alot from them since they were the ones showing me stuff instead of the other way around. Hahaha

Blogie Robillo Wow Alexis, I must say I'm jealous!

Alexis Principe Thanks Blogie! Just lucky I guess since I had to go into dive guiding in between work. I didn't even expect to meet them in person in this situation, and was just thrilled especially when I had been studying their books since college. One of the best things about them is their enthusiasm whenever we found stuff, even if it's just things they've seen many times before. They were really generous with sharing their knowledge and experiences... which I try to also do whenever I guide guests so as to give alot more meaning to critters and their photos.

Phillip Kearney Not sure about Sp Tasmanian 11.0 m 20 C

Ashley Missen This is a tricky one as I have it in Nudibase as Chromodoris sp. (3) but some people believe it to be either Chromodoris tinctoria or Chromodoris reticulata - my belief is that it is a different species to the other 2 - But this is a much debated view. this paticular version C. sp.3 is a temperate water variation - Can you Please send the Photo with the info on where it was Found to data@nudibase.com - Cheers and thanks Ash

Bernard Picton I think there's a whole tinctoria/reticulata group which someone will have to sort out some day.

Ashley Missen I am Working on it a bit - I will be Chating with Dr Richard Willan about it in March during the Nudibranch Conference - my view is the yellow interlacing on the mantle and the yellow marking on the foot make it a different species - Cheers Ash

Bernard Picton I'm so out of touch I hadn't heard there was a conference. Can you post details Ashley?

Bernard Picton I've some C. tinctoria group photos from Taiwan and Indonesia. I'll take a look on Monday when I'm back in work and post them here for you.

Ashley Missen Sorry got it wrong not a conference but a workshop -- http://www.nudibranch.com.au/workshop.html - Cheers Ash

Bernard Picton Thanks Ashley. Yes Jim Anderson told me about this so I wondered if it was the same thing. I'd love to be going! :-)

Ryan Pearson Hey all, I'm new to this... thought you all could probably ID a few of these faster than I could :P

Gary Cobb I can't comment on the photos (Doh!) so here I go again....pic 1 and 10 Chromodoris verrieri (Cross, 1875), Pic 3 and 7 and 8 Pleurobranchus peronii Cuvier, 1804, pic 11 correct, pic 15 Syphonota geographica (Adams & Reeve, 1850), pic 16 Chromodoris cf. reticulata or as some say Chromodoris tinctoria but that species has white gills, pic 17 Hydatina physics (Linnaeus, 1758)

Ryan Pearson Wow, thanks Gary! :)

Gary Cobb My pleasure! Happy branching