Manta Ray Disabled Nudi..
Species Name: No idea??
Location: Manado Bay, North Sulawesi, Indonesia
Nikon D700, Aquatica, S&S YS-D1
105mm VR, ISO200, F32, 1/125
Ron Silver https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=519384234821549&set=gm.446421708811641&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf
Ron Silver Nudibranch from the Seychelles........ID?
Blogie Robillo Beautiful!
Arne KuilmanGlossodoris cincta (west Indian Ocean variation) I believe.
Ron Silver Do you have a reference or any photos? Here's ome info from the Sea Slug Forum but the marginal band colors are quite different: http://www.seaslugforum.net/showall/gloscinc
Arne Kuilman Hmm, I was looking at Glossodoris sp. ,but it's rhinophores remind me of a different species.
Arne Kuilman Glossodoris sp. has many color variations as this page shows: http://seaslugs.free.fr/nudibranche/a_glosso_hikuerensis.htm
Ron Silver Doesn't appear to be G. hikuerensis
Ron Silver Wonder about a color form of Goniobranchus reticulata?
Boomer William Wing I think you're close Ron, I'm still looking but can't buy such a compete shift in the color and pattern on the marginal edge. I'm looking under Genus name Chromodoris now.
Boomer William Wing Found one allot closer Chromodoris albopunctata.
http://www.seaslugforum.net/showall/chroalbopc
But this does not make it either. Yours has a fading blue margin, not more sharp like all the pics we have been looking at. The blue margin in yours is white spotted as are the Rhino tips. None of those Gonio's or Gloss's have this in any color variation or even these 2 species, spotted margin.
Ron Silver I can't open the link on your reply above?
Boomer William Wing I will fix that
Boomer William Wing http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/1974
Ron Silver Thanx
Alexis Principe Might belong to the Chromodoris tinctoria/reticulata complex since the pattern on the dorsal side is like C. reticulata but different color in terms of margin and rhinophores.
Boomer William Wing Ron Silver I posted it elsewhere and got the same answer as ^ Alexis Principe
Alexis Principe Hi Boomer! I see that you're acquaintances with Richard Ross and Matt Wandell... they were my guests a few years ago during the California Academy of Sciences Exploration here in the Philippines. A few months ago I was diving with Bart Shepherd and Dirk (SECORE Project) when they visited.
Ron Silver Thanx, always nice to get confirmation of what I opined several posts ago. :-D
Boomer William Wing Hi Alexis Principe :) I know both of them very well. There are pics of us together on my Timeline. I have known Charles Delbeek, the Assistant Curator CAS Stienhart for ~ 25 years. Same for Scott Michael. Richard my be staying at my house for a weekend in Dec., giving a local talk here. "Charlie", Jen Veron, is also a friend of mine, although he is not a FB person. That is a bunch of great guys you are diving with.
Alexis Principe I have seen books of Charlie Veron on coral species but haven't dived with him yet, but Charles DelBeek and Scott Michael I've personally met and dived with. They are really great guys that I've enjoyed diving with since I've learned alot of stuff from. Please extend my greetings when you see them and hope to dive with you here in the Philippines. :)
Ron Silver Not routinely in the same stellar company as you, but happy to say I met Scott & Janine Michael while diving at KBR in Lembeh many, many years ago.
Alexis Principe During my early years as a dive guide, Scott and Janine came in a group along with Neville Coleman and Roger Steene. I really learned alot from them since they were the ones showing me stuff instead of the other way around. Hahaha
Blogie Robillo Wow Alexis, I must say I'm jealous!
Alexis Principe Thanks Blogie! Just lucky I guess since I had to go into dive guiding in between work. I didn't even expect to meet them in person in this situation, and was just thrilled especially when I had been studying their books since college. One of the best things about them is their enthusiasm whenever we found stuff, even if it's just things they've seen many times before. They were really generous with sharing their knowledge and experiences... which I try to also do whenever I guide guests so as to give alot more meaning to critters and their photos.
Christopher Thorn Night dive, Sand Island, Taiwan. First time i've seent his nudi, it was floating in the surge at about 8m, about 20mm length. Chromodoris Albopunctata?
Christopher Thorn this*
Blogie Robillo Looks like C. albopunctata
Jeff RosenfeldGlossodoris cincta (Bergh, 1888) See http://www.seaslugforum.net/showall/gloscinc
Timothy Nguyen Hi Gary, just chasing a confirmation on this critter (30-40mm long) spotted on the western side of flinders reef. I think it's a Glossodoris hikuerensis but you know the dangers of the internet and self diagnosis.
Gary Cobb You are correct...go to the head of the class!
Sascha Hofmann Thanks, had this one incorrectly classified as Glossodoris cincta. But G. Cincta has a dstinctive yellow line on the mantle whereas G Hikuerensis doesn't.
Norbert Binder Can anyone here help with ID please ? Seen in Bali/Indonesia, shallow reef, around 8-10m. Maybe Miamira sp. ?
Lindz Warren Not Miamira but a Glossodoris. Hard to tell which species because of the photo colour. But perhaps someone else might be able to tell. :-)
Jane Doherty I looked this up and I can't remember. I saw it in puerto Galera, Philippines - will upload my version.
Shane SiersGlossodoris cincta.
Shane Siers A beautiful reason to invest in a strobe...
Norbert Binder Thanks Shane, this would actually have been my second guess. But I can assure you there was plenty of strobe light and plenty of sunlight too - as you can see from the overexposure on top. Could not avoid it as strong surge did not give me a second chance - it was kind of a fly-by. No more colours though, also not for the naked eye, this is why I asked for ID here. Thanks, I gladly agree with Glossodoris cincta :-)
Erwin Koehler Yes, I am pretty sure this is G. cincta, because of the distinctive marginal bands, in the Western-Pacific/Eastern Indian Ocean specimens a narrow blue marginal band and a dull khaki submarginal band
Norbert Binder Would Glossodoris hikuerensis be an option ?
Erwin Koehler the marginal bands in G. hikuerensis are: the outer band is pale tan, then a whitish band and an inner dark grey band, this three bands often merge into one greyish submarginal band.
Here is a shot of it from the Eastern Indian Ocean, taken at the Similan islands, Thailand, 96mm, 15 m, 26 December 2000
Fabiana FarciGlossodoris hikuerensis?
Similan Island - Thailandia
Lindz Warren Not. G. hikuerensis but possibly Glossodoris cincta (Bergh, 1888)
Fabiana Farci Thanka! I need more books, some suggestions?
Lindz Warren Indo-Pacific Nudibranchs & Sea Slugs by Gosliner, Behrens & Valdes 2008 but then you need to check on the WoRMS website for the current correct name as things have changed since 2008.
Lindz Warren and of course there is Gary Cobbs app
Bernard CauchardGlossodoris cincta ?
Bernard Cauchard debeluis et kuiter
Sven Kahlbrock Lindz is right, G. cincta, hikuerensis got a white margin, never a green or black one
Lindz Warren For searching on WoRMS the URL is http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=search Cheers
Lindsay
On 26 Aug 2013, at 20:05, Sue Brown wrote:
Sue Brown Thanks I found it myself but couldn't find the nudis
Lindz Warren try searching on the species name without the genus. Many genera have changed although WoRMS can handle this.
Sue Brown To do that you have to know what species or genus. That is my first problem.. I'm just a newbie at this and find it all very confusing. I don't think I'm ready for WoRMS yet. ;-)
Lindz Warren best start with a book with photos such as Indo-Pacific Nudibranchs & Sea Slugs and then check against WoRMS - have fun! :-)
Sue Brown I have Neville Coleman's book thanks Lindz Warren
Lindz Warren Good start - just check the scientific names on WoRMS as the so-called 'common names' are not in fact common at all! ;-)
Blogie Robillo Today's prize was a Glossodoris cincta!
Length 5cm; depth 23m @ Chesca Garden.
It was perched on something and was trying to cross a coral head but was apparently irritated by the surface (not sure which species coral that was).
Shaun West I think this is a "Blue edged glossodoris", it was around 6cm in length found in around 3-4 meters of water on a sandy bottomed lagoon behind the barge dive site in the Red Sea, can anyone confirm?
Sarah Bowen Bit difficult to tell without colours to go on! There are different coloured bands of colour round the edges of the mantle which help to determine species.
Shaun West Hi Sarah, this has a little more light only with the sand it was burning out the Nudie, not to mention I had a wide angle lens on at the time! :)
Evette Swindale Could be brown or blue, as Sarah said there are different band colours. I have photographed both here in the Red Sea
Sarah Bowen Ah, the curse of the wide angle for critters! I'd hazard Glossodoris cincta - don't know if the common name is blue edged, but Nathalie Yonow's book on Red Sea nudibranchs says it has bands of white, blue/green and ochre round the edge of the mantle. Sound right? I'll see if I can find a picture.
Sarah Bowen Here's a pic of one I took in the Red Sea last year.
Norbert Binder Not 100% sure, as mine was definitely less colourful - and it is not only my photo which does not show them. Also gills and rhinopores seem different !