Doto hydrallmaniae

João Pedro Silva No clue yet. Coult it be Doto hydrallmaniae?

Sarah Bowen It's not on Hydrallmania falcata, though, is it? It looks more like Aglaophenia with those bronze coloured stems, and is there the suspicion of a lateral line down the body? That might suggest Doto koenneckeri (but confess have never seen that one myself!)

João Pedro Silva I don't know if it's A. pluma with all those ramifications of the main stem. Anyway, these were shot in vitro and there were many different hydroids on the tray... and many different Doto, usually only seen when they fell to the bottom of the tray. Here are some D. koenneckeri I photographed in February on A. pluma: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpsilva1971/6852336349/in/set-72157629416374379/

Sarah Bowen So what you're saying is it might have crawled off something else!!! And the second picture looks very different. Oh, I give up! I do love Dotos though...

João Pedro Silva Yes, I know for sure there was another one completely different which wasn't on that hydroid (yet I don't know on which one it was): http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpsilva1971/7618381650/in/set-72157629416374379/

João Pedro Silva Also here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpsilva1971/7618390288/in/set-72157629416374379/

Ian Smith Hi Joao Your possible D. hydrallmania looks more like the D. koenneckeri I found in Wales than your D. koenneckeri pictures. Both look as if related to D. koenneckeri, but with differences from my images. Mine accord with Thompson & Brown Biol Opisth. Moll. 2 and with Bernard Picton's image.

Ian Smith sorry - I haven't got use to the facebook controls yet. I pressed return before putting a link to my images. Here it is http://www.conchsoc.org/spaccount/Doto-koenneckeri Cheers Ian Smith

Carissa Shipman working on these for my Masters. Gotta love the crypticness.

Jim Anderson Can we identify this Doto sp. please. Found at 10 m in 8 deg C at Oban, Scotland yesterday

Brendan Oonk Could it be Doto coronata? There apears to be some red pigmentation on the inside of the cerata. Which is discribed as an identifying feature on http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/9478

Jim Anderson That was my 1st thought but the rhinophore sheaths look 'wrong' and there is not 'enough' red on the inner faces of the ceratal stalks from what I've seen before. Also lack of spots on the apex of each cerata. UW I thought this was D. fragilis because of the general tone of the cerata and the apparent lack of red pigment. I need to do more work learning the ID of the hydroids I think.

Tony Gilbert Perhaps D.millbayana? D. cuspidata is very similar, but no red pigmentation. Both are on Nemetesia the former only on N. ramosa though.

Brendan Oonk The white rim on the rhinophoral sheath suggests D.millbayana. But the cerata are not elongated and there should be 2 or 3 rows of tubercles on the cerata

Jim Anderson Could this be Doto hydrallmaniae ?

Brendan Oonk Here is good discription of D.hydrallmaniae in the apendix http://www.int-res.com/articles/meps/84/m084p053.pdf

Jim Anderson Thanks Brendan. I'm still unsure.

Tony Gilbert Nothing from me am afraid. You could try contacting Anthony Holley who has quite a bit of knowlegde on Dotos. www.holleyuwphoto.com