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Cinetorhynchus hawaiiensis

Okuno & Hoover, 1998


Ryanskiy Andrey Cinetorhynchus hawaiiensis on my picture? I added link with example photo http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/reefs/guamimg/crustacea/caridea/Pages/Image4.html

Ryanskiy Andrey I understand that it is impossible - to meet Cinetorhynchus hawaiiensis in Maldives. "Distribution, known only from the Hawaiian Islands" And I know it is very similar to C.reticulatus. But "Two color characters easily distinguish one species from the other: C. hawaiiensis has a distinct dark spot on the lateral junction of the second and third abdominal somites and it completely lacks the red and white reticulations present on the abdominal somites of C.reticulatus - And I see both on my picture:)! http://decapoda.nhm.org/pdfs/20786/20786.pdf - look p.37 picture A

Ryanskiy Andrey Ops, Isee Cinetorhynchus hawaiiensis in the Coleman's Marine Life of the Maldives :)

Boomer William Wing Had a bunch of stuff for you Ryan and deleted all...lol. Although I was more or less saying recticulus but that spot just throws a wrench into it. After like 50 pics of recticulus , zero have that spot. If yours did not have that spot, rect. So, with you on haw...

Ryanskiy Andrey I saw in my notification, Boomer William Wing, that you wrote "hands down you have recticulus. Go to your PDF you posted and look a A,B & C. A&B = hawaiiensis-overall dark and weakly mottled, legs not stripped or poorly stripped. C = recticulus- overall, very mottled and legs distinctly stripped. Go on the net and look up both and you will see the same" And I think that it is C.hawaiiensis. But not pure blood. I have some questions to Grand Mother of this shrimp about stripped legs :) It is understandable, taking into account a lot of C.reticulatus around. And it was a strange place, where picture was taken - like Crusta paradise :)

Boomer William Wing Yup, could easily be a cross breed. OH forgot, could also be a gene trait, like recessive gene = stripped legs :)

Arthur Anker you guys can talk as much as you want here, there's no specimen for a positive ID, and that means "Cinetorhynchus sp." that's it ... ;)

Ryanskiy Andrey Thank you, Arthur, it is easy way to finish any talk in this group :). And a good reason not to begin any. No specimen - no ID. Let us - great scientists - study under microscope crab male's gonopods. Do not show us your pictures! And it is not a problem that we cannot ID by good photo big 12+ cm bright colored crab, found everywhere in the Indo-Pacific. No specimen - no ID. May be people like Randall, Allen - they are not real scientists ;)? Because they made thousands of dives, tons of excellent photos in situ, and every diver can identify almost all fishes in the Indo-Pacific thanks to very good illustrated books by this authors and their colleagues! It would be much more pure-blood scientifically safe to sit in the room, saying with a smile - no specimen - no ID ;)!

Arthur Anker well, turn and spin it the way you want, but the reality remains no specimen no positive ID, beyond the genus in this case, and I told you already not to compare shrimps with fishes, doesn't make a lot of sense .. we do our best here to help you guys, but you seem not to understand that .. btw, Coleman's book is not a good reference for crustacean IDs

Message posted on Crustacean Identification Group on 12 Nov 2013
Taxonomy
Animalia (Kingdom)
  Arthropoda (Phylum)
    Crustacea (Subphylum)
      Malacostraca (Class)
        Eumalacostraca (Subclass)
          Eucarida (Superorder)
            Decapoda (Order)
              Pleocyemata (Suborder)
                Caridea (Infraorder)
                  Nematocarcinoidea (Superfamily)
                    Rhynchocinetidae (Family)
                      Cinetorhynchus (Genus)
                        Cinetorhynchus hawaiiensis (Species)
Associated Species