Hippocampus ramulosus

Maurizio Pasi Hippocampus Ramulosus Olympus E-PL2 - Panasonic 45mm macro - 2 Sea&Sea YS-D1 ISO200 - f8 - 1/180

Pasquale Isabella un pò anemico poverino :-)

Andy Horton Hippocampus guttulatus (=H. ramulosus)

Andy Horton http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/PDF/waca1981_schedule5.pdf What I have got to find is the list of the new species including the Giant Goby.

Andy Horton Conservation Designations for UK Taxa http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/page-3408

Andy Horton http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/search/?page=0&searchpattern=seahorse

Sue Doyle she's beautiful - and lucky to be found by the right person.

Sabine Katharina Wieczorek I would love to see one of these. This one bigger than I expected.

David Wilson The seahorses in Studland Bay have been well documented but I have long suspected they are also inside the harbour as there are extensive eel-grass beds at the Sandbanks end of the harbour.

David Wilson Sorry the above post is under the wrong article.

Neil Garrick-Maidment No worries David, if you check out the trusts website you will see a report on seahorses in Poole Harbour, which I hope you find interesting. I have dived extensively inside the harbour and on my first dive dropped (literally) onto 3 in the seagrass below me (poor things but they were OK). In our British Seahorse Survey Report 2011 it explains about seahorses and sheltered areas and the rough distribution of them throughout the British Isles. As you know we hold the National Seahorse Database and we have in excess of 700 sightings now and the database is buidling now to include a photographic databse, maps Etc.#

Neil Garrick-Maidment sorry forgot to put the link www.theseahorsetrust.org

Neil Garrick-Maidment I see Andy has put a small note about H.guttulatus equalling H.ramulosus. H.ramulosus is the old classification for this species and no longer applies because there is possibly a H.ramulosus in other waters depending on who you listen to when you read about classification. Even though DNA classification should be very accurate, in the case of seahorses it is in total confusion with 3 main sources of classifiers (from different parts of the world), all disagreeing. Makes life for us ordinary people very difficult. Even more confusing when you get to common names, H.guttulatus is known as the Spiny Seahorse (here in the UK) Long Snouted Seahorse, Many Branched Seahorse or even the Maned Seahorse. I am sure there are a million and one names for it but Here in the UK we use H.guttulatus and the common is the Spiny Seahorse

Neil Garrick-Maidment Confused you will be when they are discovering new species and sub species all the time !!!

Andy Horton http://www.fishbase.org/Nomenclature/SynonymsList.php?ID=1802&SynCode=130691&GenusName=Hippocampus&SpeciesName=guttulatus

Neil Garrick-Maidment FacebookThanks Andy, proves the point, definitely confused now !! Best wishes Neil Neil Garrick-Maidment FBNA Executive Director The Seahorse Trust (registered charity no. 1086027) Escot Park Ottery St Mary Nr Honiton Devon EX11 1LU Tel: 01404 822373 SKYPE-seahorses12 www.theseahorsetrust.org www.britishseahorsesurvey.org www.seahorses.tv http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#!/group.php?gid=106564446031865&ref=ts registered charity 1086027 WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NATURE Raise money for THE SEAHORSE TRUST with VIRGIN GIVING at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/giving/ E-BAY at http://donations.ebay.co.uk/charity/charity.jsp?NP_ID=43663 EVERYCLICK.COM at http://www.everyclick.com/theseahorsetrust

Andy Horton http://www.fishbase.org/Nomenclature/SynonymSummary.php?ID=30114&GSID=14814&Status=ambiguous%20synonym&Synonymy=questionable&Combination=original%20combination&GenusName=Hippocampus&SpeciesName=ramulosus&SpecCode=1802&SynonymsRef=30915&Author=Leach,%201814&Misspelling=0 It seems reasonably clear to me. Whether it is right or not is a different matter ?

Andy Horton Hippocampus ramulosus Leach, 1814 : Ambiguous synonym of Hippocampus guttulatus Cuvier, 1829 . Treated as junior synonym, for this name is still widely used for H. guttulatus; however, it is unclear what species the type species represents, for it is not similar to H. guttulatus group (Ref. 30915). Valid in Dawson (Ref. 4509). Etymology of Generic name : Greek, ippos = horse + Greek, kampe = curvature (Ref. 45335).

Neil Garrick-Maidment FacebookNot regularly used in the seahorse world I occupy and I deal with them daily, nationally and internationally. The two native seahorses are H.hippocampus (Short Snouted Seahorse) and H.guttulatus (Spiny Seahorse) Best wishes Neil Neil Garrick-Maidment FBNA Executive Director The Seahorse Trust (registered charity no. 1086027) Escot Park Ottery St Mary Nr Honiton Devon EX11 1LU Tel: 01404 822373 SKYPE-seahorses12 www.theseahorsetrust.org www.britishseahorsesurvey.org www.seahorses.tv http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#!/group.php?gid=106564446031865&ref=ts registered charity 1086027 WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NATURE Raise money for THE SEAHORSE TRUST with VIRGIN GIVING at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/giving/ E-BAY at http://donations.ebay.co.uk/charity/charity.jsp?NP_ID=43663 EVERYCLICK.COM at http://www.everyclick.com/theseahorsetrust

Andy Horton When I actually started my web page on seahorses http://www.glaucus.org.uk/Seahorse.htm in 1997, it was far from clear what the correct scientific name was. I could not understand the change at the time. I was brought up on the older British books which used the old name.

Neil Garrick-Maidment FacebookSince then the world of DNA classification has confused everything. As I said there are at least 3 schools of thought and none of them are very clear. The accepted one is done by Lucy Woodall of Project Seahorse as she looked intensely at European seahorses and has written her dissertation on this subject. We worked very closely helping Lucy gather samples and information. Another school of though comes from Rudie Kuiter in Australia and he has a completely different view. The problem comes if you are a lumper or a splitter in your classification. There is a third view from from an internationally respected institute in America there has a different view, hence my comment about confusion. Life was easier in Henry T Fords day when you could have whatever colour you like as long as its black !!!! Best wishes Neil Neil Garrick-Maidment FBNA Executive Director The Seahorse Trust (registered charity no. 1086027) Escot Park Ottery St Mary Nr Honiton Devon EX11 1LU Tel: 01404 822373 SKYPE-seahorses12 www.theseahorsetrust.org www.britishseahorsesurvey.org www.seahorses.tv http://www.facebook.com/reqs.php#!/group.php?gid=106564446031865&ref=ts registered charity 1086027 WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH NATURE Raise money for THE SEAHORSE TRUST with VIRGIN GIVING at http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/giving/ E-BAY at http://donations.ebay.co.uk/charity/charity.jsp?NP_ID=43663 EVERYCLICK.COM at http://www.everyclick.com/theseahorsetrust

Andy Horton I should have now put links on the web pages to the Seahorse Trust web pages.