James Padfield Having trawled nudipixel.com, I think the first one (~25mm) is Chromodoris britoi, and the second (~45mm) is either Hypselodoris picta or Hypselodoris cantabrica - can anyone confirm these? Both were taken off of the Azores last week, in about 15m of water.
João Pedro Silva The second is Felimare picta azorica, an endemic subspecies. The first ID is correct but the current classification is 'Felimida' britoi.
More on the revision of the Chromodorididae (which moved the Atlantic Hypselodoris and Chromodoris to the Felimida clade) here:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0033479
Juan Antonio Torres BalaguerHypselodoris picta
Red Rocks SW of Mallorca 13-07-2013
Compact Camera: Sony dsc-w270, Housing: Marine Pack Sony
Light: Dragonsub 5 ledNacra Atrina fragilis
Red Rocks SW of Mallorca 13-07-2013
Compact Camera: Sony dsc-w270, Housing: Marine Pack Sony
Light: Dragonsub 5 led
MarÃa Eugenia Suárez Joaquin Muñoz, no habrás puesto esas páginas para mÃ? como decÃs en cataluña, yo soy española, y por tanto no entiendo el catalán. ;) Lo único que quiero saber es en que se diferencian (foto vs. foto) o si es que la gente los confunde y por tanto me confundo.
Joaquin MuñozHypselodoris elegans tambien se le llama a este nudibranquio. Pero el nombre correcto es Felimare Picta.
Joaquin Muñoz La pagina te la puse porque sale con el nombre correcto Felimare PIcta no Hypselodoris Elegans como mucha gente le llame y en algunos libros aqui sale. Pero si hablamos del mismo nudibranquio
Joaquin Muñoz yo antes le llamaba Hypselodoris Elegans hasta que en algunas páginas de Nudis me dieron el toque, en los libros de aquà sale como Hypselodoris Elegans, pero no es Femilare Picta, saludos
Alvaro Hernández Vistas en la Costa de Montgrà (Girona)
Deep: 25 meters
Alvaro HernándezHypselodoris picta
Josep Albert P Si una ya es bonita dos juntas es alucinante..... Enhorabuena.
João Pedro Silva Felimare picta. Nãoi existem Hypselodoris, Chromodoris ou Glossodoris no Atlântico. A última revisão da famÃlia, de 2012, separou-os com base no ADN:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0033479
MarÃa Eugenia Suárez Preciosas, sobre todo por la diferencia en tonalidades. (Y)
Sonja Ooms It's a Hypselodoris picta ( Chromodorididae) typical for Mediterranean region.
Joaquin Muñoz yes
João Pedro Silva Sonja Antuka, used to be Hypselodoris picta, not anymore. Last year there was a published study which used molecular analysis to conclude former Chromodoris, Hypselodoris and Glossodoris from the Mediterranean and Atlantic (lessepsian migrants excluded, of course) are inded more closely related to each other than to species of the same genus from the Indo-Pacific. Therefore, the correct valid name for this species is now Felimare picta.
The study is freely available here: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0033479
João Pedro Silva To cut a long story short, former Hypselodoris from the Atlantic and Med. are now Felimare, former Chromodoris and Glossodoris from the Atlantic and Med. are now 'Felimida'.
Joaquin Muñoz Thanks for all the information, a greeting :)
Elodie Camprasse Hello Nudibranch Lovers! Could anyone tell me what this creature is? It looked to me like a nudibranch, but if it is, that is the biggest one I have ever seen in my life! (like half a football more or less!). I took this photo on Whale Island, Vietnam this month. I don't have access to good ID books at the moment and I'm dying to know what this was! Could anyone help please?
João Pedro SilvaPleurobranchus weberi
http://www.seaslugforum.net/find/pleuwebe
Elodie Camprasse Awesome! Thank you so much Joao! I'm so glad I got an answer! This guy was SO impressive!
João Pedro Silva You're welcome, Elodie. It must be quite large. Within that size range we have in the NE Atlantic three species: the sea hare Aplysia fasciata (up to 40cm long and 2kg weight), the nudibranch Tethys fimbria (up to 30cm long but hard to find) and the very common Felimare picta (previously Hypselodoris picta) which has a record 20cm long specimen collected last year for research.
Elodie Camprasse nice! I had never seen anything that big, even in the NE Atlantic, although I had seen learge sea hare, but I'm guessing this one was about 35 cm in diameter!!!
Lucas CerCur I agree with Joao Pedro. Another matter is if this name is or not a junior synonym of Pleurobranchus forskali. Therevision of the genus Pleurobranchus is another challenge waiting for someone....
Elodie Camprasse thanks for the precision! If I had time, I'd love to work more on that!
Lucas CerCur To work more in which sense? Approaching to the review of the genus?
Elodie Camprasse yeah.. I meant on nudibranchs and taxonomy in general!
Lucas CerCur Ah! OK.
Jean-Philippe Imbert Wonderful and very lucky, I have been teaching on whale island for 10 years and I never saw one that big. can you send this pictures and comment to Michel, the owner of the island. Thank you.
Elodie Camprasse yeah, of course Jean-Philippe; I will! actually he is on the island at the moment. I didn't think about mentioning it to him but I will!
Sven Kahlbrock Yesterday at wreck of Rosalie Moller.does anyone know what it is?
João Pedro Silva Janolus sp.
Sarah Bowen Oh wow, I love it! We've never managed to do the Rosie M. How about a Red Sea Nudi Safari next?
João Pedro Silva That's also a good idea, Sarah! But first I have plans for less explored places, like Madeira and the Azores :)
Sarah Bowen Now you're talking - Red Sea is well documented, even if most divers tend to go for wrecks or big stuff. Look forward to hearing how your Portuguese safari goes!
David Kipling Did you do to the deep-sea sponge meetings in the Azores João Pedro? I know Claire and Bernard were going to try and do a bit of diving while they were there (don't know if they did). And what about Cape Verde - or is that too South for you?
João Pedro Silva I've been several times to the Azores (my wife lived there for several years) although I've never been to Corvo, Flores and Graciosa (the other 6 islands I know relatively well). I've never seen much other than the incredibly common Hypselodoris picta azorica but I know there are some amazing little spots where you can find, for instance, Dicata odhneri by the dozen.
David Kipling Sounds like you need to put together a group of good nudi spotters to come along and help out on a trip ...
João Pedro Silva Regarding Cape Verde, I'm thinking about paying a little visit one of these days.
Sven Kahlbrock but to have a nudi trip in the red sea would be nice too ;-P
João Pedro Silva That would be very easy to organize :)
Still, I'm more into Atlantic species right now.
Sven Kahlbrock Brr, much to cold for me. smile
Sarah Bowen oh, you wimp, Sven! So no point in inviting you to West Wales to see the nudibranch delights in Pembrokeshire, then?!
Sven Kahlbrock hihi, maybe with a very good drysuit, thermo underware and same heating
João Pedro Silva You'll miss an awful lot of nudibranchs, Sven :)
Sven Kahlbrock i know, but i should go to wales anyhow. the atlantic is fascinating too ;-) but so many places and so little time ;-(
João Pedro Silva We still have several open places for our nudibranch safari liveaboard in the Algarve next 29th of June :)
Sven Kahlbrock mhh, would be nice, but i have to work sometimes. and this is our busy time ;-(
Nathalie Yonow new species of Janolus - do we have a body??!
Sven Kahlbrock ;-P
Sven Kahlbrock yep
Nathalie Yonow excellent, 2 or 3 more would be helpful
ΔημήτÏης ΠουÏσανίδης Am looking you
Greece, Crete, Heraklion
Canon G5
Ikelite housing + 1 DS50 Ike strobe
f8 1/60 iso 50
Mawi Rahim Sorry, don't mind to be rude, how should we address you as?
Ken Thongpila Mawi, I would love to know how to say his name too :-)
Ken Thongpila Wow! G5 That's classic G Series. Very nice shot too.
ΔημήτÏης ΠουÏσανίδης Dimitris Poursanidis in english !! Phd candidate in Marine Ecology, GIS Analyst / Owner of terraSolutions :)
ΔημήτÏης ΠουÏσανίδης Ken Thongpila Yeap..is really good but now is time to wet my DSLR (Canon 50D)...
ΔημήτÏης ΠουÏσανίδης and the species is Hypselodoris picta
Ken Thongpila Cool, Thanks for all details Dimitris :-) We are happy to have another Marine Ecology on the group. Looking forward to see your shot from 50D too.
Fabio Russo Hi i put on line a note with a lot of color variation of this species yuo can see it here:
https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=294204223978766
João Pedro Silva Have you ever noticed how deep the mantle goes on the eyes of Hypselodoris picta?
I only see a mild concavity (sometimes very distinct, like in H. villafranca: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpsilva1971/5719401734/) in some other Hypselodoris species but also in Hypselodoris picta azorica (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpsilva1971/4865075521/). Bearing in mind how eyes seem to have evolved, does this mean H. picta can detect the direction light comes from?
Sylvie OmnèsHypselodoris Picta (also called Hyps. or Glossodoris Valenciennensi);the biggest can go to about 20cm ! starts about 20 m depth.
this one was 15cm, at 22m depth
Carlo Mandola Finaly i can post my first photo/video of nudibranch ;) i have wait this time a lot...
enjoy.
Go pro 3 Silver Ed. - found at 3 mt - long ca. 5 cm
Carlo Mandola
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201871477098927¬if_t=like
João Pedro Silva Felimare picta. Hypselodoris valenciennesi is not valid.
http://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=563995
Carlo Mandola thx O_o but in all book i haved see is write that :( i'am sorry
Carlo Mandola i change name of video and isert u link at description, thx
João Pedro Silva I'm afraid the books you've seen are not up to date. Until mid 2012 you'll find it as Hypselodoris picta (for instance, in the Des Limaces de Reve book on Mediterranean sea slugs) but since it has been changed to Felimare picta. As far as I know, the first book to use the latest revision of the Chromodorididae is the "Sea Slugs of the Algarve" field guide.
http://hypselodoris.blogspot.pt/p/guia-de-campo-field-guide.html
Owen Wangensteen Es la especie anteriormente llamada Hypselodoris picta = Hypselodoris elegans, y que ahora se llama Felimare picta
Owen Wangensteen La coloración azul de fondo varÃa mucho según las zonas geográficas. En la Costa Brava el fondo es prácticamente transparente casi sin tonos azules, y se le llamaba Hypselodoris elegans. Más al sur, el tono azul se va haciendo cada vez más intenso.
Naoufal Baliste Si es un Felimare picta = Hypseldoris picta es el mas grande de nudibranquios (tamano)
Owen Wangensteen VarÃa mucho geográficamente. De hecho, yo tengo la sospecha de que la Felimare cantabrica, que es intensamente azul, es en realidad la misma especie...
Owen Wangensteen FÃjate que los rinóforos son siempre azules...
Naoufal Baliste la premira foro es una Felimare picta pero Felimare cantabrica es differante
Naoufal Baliste !!!
Owen Wangensteen Weno! Parece que los genotipos del Sur van subiendo! :-)
Owen Wangensteen Naoufal, lo de la cantabrica es solo una sospecha... HabrÃa que confirmarlo con secuenciación...
Owen Wangensteen Y luego hay la Felimare azorica... :-)
Naoufal Baliste la segunda foto puede ser una picta tambien. porque la picta tiene una grande variedad de color y pero una cosa muy importante que tiene un tamano muy grande de nudibranquios
Naoufal Baliste :)
Xavi Carrillo de Albornoz Lo del tamaño lo confirmo. Eran enormes
Owen Wangensteen Naoufal, aquà en Cataluña la variedad más abundante de la F. picta es prácticamente blanca transparente y amarilla (como la segunda foto). Es tan diferente que se le habÃa descrito como otra especie (Hypselodoris elegans). Las formas azuladas (como la de la primera foto) yo no las habÃa visto nunca en la Costa Brava.
Owen Wangensteen Y sÃ, son gordos. Son los doridaceos más grandes del Mediterráneo. Aunque hay otro nudibranquio aún más grande en el Mediterráneo, el Tethys fimbria.
Owen Wangensteen Anda, mira... Por lo que veo en este blog, parece que la azorica ya la han metido como subespecie de picta, junto con la webbi y la verdensis... Asà que creo que lo de la cantabrica es cuestión de tiempo... jejeje
Naoufal Baliste si es de l'Atlantico de este es un Felimare picta pero si es de Atlantico oueste es un Hypselodoris picta (segun la nueva clacificacion)
Craig De Wit Ok nudilovers.. help needed!!! :-) I have a 14 year old niece who is doing a school project on nudibranchs and she needs support with video footage or such.. would any of you be able to assist? She lives in Brisbane and I am currently out on charter in Milne Bay so cant help her...SOS Craig.
Kristin Anderson Photos I have accessible but all my video isn't Pm if it will help
Craig De Wit Kristin... that may help too.. thanks..will get back to you! :-)
Terry Farr I have a few videos I am happy to give but the quality from this site is much better than anything I have http://slugsite.tierranet.com/
Craig De Wit Thanks for your input Terry Farr..will get her to check and get back to you
Karen Enayati Here you have one of ours video from South Spain. The footage of Hypselodoris picta is quite short, but maybe it is useful. Also to be seen some Nudi eggs ribbons, Aplysia depilans and some lovely Aplysia fasciata swimming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHnurhWsayY&feature=channel&list=UL
Craig De Wit Thank you very much Karen!!! Wish I could look at it myself however I have very slow interent here. Will pass you comment onto my neice.. again many thanks.
Gary Cobb Talk to Mike Miller of the Slug Site
João Pedro Silva Karen Kienberger, loved the video as it illustrates some of the species we also find here in Portugal. The eggs appearing after the Hypselodoris picta are from Berthellina sp. (most probably Berthellina edwardsii) and not from a nudibranch.
João Pedro Silva Craig De Wit, I don't shoot video but my photos of nudibranchs are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpsilva1971/collections/72157627467298556/
Karen Enayati Thanks João Pedro Silva for the information. Yes, it could be a Berthelina edwardsii, as they are some in this zone. And I am pleased to here, that you liked our video.