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Phyllidiella pustulosa
(Cuvier, 1804)
Jon Chamberlain Last one from this season on Hoga! It looks very much like a Phyllidiella pustulosa, which was very common, but the compound pustules look very spiky more like Phyllidiella cooraburrama. 10m deep, Hoga, Wakatobi, Indonesia. Suggestions?
Christopher Thorn Houbihou Flower garden, Taiwan. 5 m. 40 mm. Mimic of Phyllidiella pustulosa?
Gary Cobb This is a flatworm called Pseudoceros imitatus and yes it is a mimic.
Christopher Thorn Thanks for the quick identification Gary, I found an interesting link to it here http://oceana.org/en/explore/marine-wildlife/imitating-flatworm.
Penn Dls ID please?
Found this nudi while a wrasse was trying to nibble it, then the nudi started to emit those smoke-like stuff from its body and scared the wrasse away.
Found at about 10m @Lembeh.
Jon ChamberlainPhyllidiella pustulosa most likely I would say, although a difficult angle to see the mantle edge and no rhinophores visible (not surprising if a fish is harrassing it). The "smoke" is the anti-feed compounds stored in the white pustules that the nudi gets from the sponges it eats. Did it land on that coral or did the fish drop it there? Reminds me of the "snail on a razor" scene from Bladerunner.
Penn Dls It fell on the coral as it was harassed by the fish.
Jon Chamberlain Last one from this season on Hoga! It looks very much like a Phyllidiella pustulosa, which was very common, but the compound pustules look very spiky more like Phyllidiella cooraburrama. 10m deep, Hoga, Wakatobi, Indonesia. Suggestions?
Christopher Thorn One Phyllidia or 3? Coron, 25 m, 30 mm.
Gary Cobb Because you can't see the rhinophores or the foot sole it will be difficult to place a name on this animal. My guess is Phyllidia elegans or Phyllidiella pustulosa and there is only one animal in this photo.
Gary Cobb There appears to be multicompound tubercles which means this could be Phyllidiopsis krempfi.
Ashley Missen Phyllidiella nigra - was this found in Shallow water
Geoffrey Van Damme yes Ash on a kayaking/snorkeling trip ,one metre depth.
Ashley Missen then Yes it is a Phyllidiella nigra as they are a shallow water species will more rounded pustules then Phyllidiella pustulosa - Cheers Ash
Geoffrey Van Damme ok mate cool
Ashley Missen Nice Photo by the way - Should send you all your sghting info and photo in to data@nudibase.com and I will add to the database
Geoffrey Van Damme Ok mate i,ll try again
Ashley Missen Thank you - it really help the database grow
Christopher Thorn Ding Bai Sha, Taiwan. 31/3/12. 10 m depth. Approx 30 mm length.
Blogie Robillo Is this Phyllidiella rudmani?
Christopher Thorn Blogie Robillo, how can you distinguish between this and Paradoris liturata?
Blogie Robillo Hi Christopher. I'm not an expert, and I'm not sure about the species above. However, your species (P. liturata) has gills while the one here does not seem to have any...
Christopher ThornPhyllidiella pustulosa?
æç¶é‚¦ Phyllidiopsis krempfi, Looking closer at her rhinophores, you'll find black color on back, and pink color lower half in front.
Christopher Thorn Yes, i'm inclined to agree. Thanks for your input æç¶é‚¦! Are you in Taiwan?
æç¶é‚¦ Yes, I'm Taiwanese.
Christopher Thorn cool, I mainly dive around the south coast, how about you?
Eric Banzon Noora Appreciate help on Phyllidiella ID of these 2 nudis. Thanks :-)
Blogie Robillo The one on the right is most likely P. pustulosa -- I have a similar one that I thought might be something else, but was told otherwise. The one on the left... P. granulata or P. lizae?
Gary Cobb These both look like Phyllidiella pustulosa but it would be nice and sometimes vital to ID them, to know where the Nudibranchs came from and their size.
Eric Banzon Noora Sorry for the lack of info Gary Cobb. Both are from Anilao in the Philippines. The one on the left is about 50mm while the one on the right is about 76mm.
Erwin Koehler The left species might be Phyllidiopsis fissurata or
possibly Phyllidiopsis krempfi both of them can be identified by the rhinophores: pink on anterior face and around base, black on apex and posterior face...I need a lateral view!
Eric Banzon Noora Thanks Erwin Koehler. Unfortunately wasn't able to get lateral pictures. Next time I spot one of these will make sure to get some. However, checked the pics again and a close-up of the rhinophores would suggest a dual color nature. Will post them and see if they would be of help. Cheers!
Eric Banzon Noora Hi Erwin Koehler. Here are some links to the close-ups. Hope they help :-) http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151004725304157&set=a.10150837649934157.401597.682219156&type=3&theater http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151004725464157&set=a.10150837649934157.401597.682219156&type=3&theater
Gary Cobb After seeing this close up I would agree with Erwin this looks like Phyllidiopsis fissurata. I can see at the bottom of the photo a very compound pustule. Like pustules on a stalk!
Gary Cobb And you can see the pink on the front of the rhinophores.
Eric Banzon Noora Thanks Gary Cobb! cheers :-)
Gary Cobb You're quite welcome!
Eric Banzon Noora Seems I would have to revisit my Phyllidiella spottings and see if they might be a different species altogether. And next time, would try to get more angles and close-ups. Problem sometimes is that they are in a very unyielding position that it would be quite impossible to get other angles. In these instances would it be ok to get them and stage a better photo op? Have always tried to capture them as is where is. Case in point (and oh would appreciate an ID as well - not sure if it is a P. granulata) - : http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150350097849157&set=a.10150350093644157.347156.682219156&type=3&theater
Erwin Koehler Now, since I had to stop diving many years ago I like to tell: I took the first shot exactly how I found the animal, because it is often found on its food source and for many species is there a still a big question mark! Then I tried to find a nice place for me (and my fins!), -almost always a rock in the sand- placed the animal there and took pics from different angles, some nice ones for ID, some nice looking ones for the brancher community, then I tried to bring the sea slug back to the place where I found it.
Ps for many species IDs is it good to have a ventral picture so you must turn the specimen upside down...for example: some Phyllidiids have a median black line at the foot-sole, others not, easy to distinguish, or some species of Platydoris have distinct spots at the underside of the mantle..
I know many divers will not like to read this, but I also collected and
preserved many specimens, several specimens of Phyllodesmium koehleri and many other "solar powered" sea slugs for the research of
Ingo Burghardt on zooxanthellae, who gave it my name "koehleri" as a 'thank you' for my work.
here is how I know the sizes of the animals:
http://www.medslugs.de/E/Pac-W/Pleurobranchus_grandis_12.htm
or here
http://www.medslugs.de/E/Pac-W/Gymnodoris_aurita_05.htm
Eric Banzon Noora Thanks for the insights and tips Erwin. Who knows with these, maybe one of these days a slug can be named after me. Though not sure how nice that would sound lol. Btw any ideas on the ID of the last link I sent? P. granulata?
Gary Cobb We had a surgy couple of dives at Flinders Reef Moreton Island yesterday and found 26 species. Here is David Mullins, me and Jo posing at the surface interval in our new H1 Hybrid Waterproof drysuits, very warm aboard Mischief.
Gary Cobb Here the list of species we found:
Berthellina citrinaChromodoris aspersa
Chromodoris elisabethina
Chromodoris lochi
Cratena lineata
Cratena simba
Chromodoris burni
Costasiella kuroshimae
Doriprismatica atromarginata
Elysia sp. 1
Goniobranchus collingwoodi
Goniobranchus cf. verrieri
Goniodoridella sp. 2
Hypselodoris whitei
Plocamopherus imperialis
Phyllidiopsis burni
Phyllidiella pustulosa
Phyllidiella lizae
Risbecia godeffroyana
Roboastra gracilis
Thuridilla livida
Thuridilla neona
Thuridilla carlsoni
Thuridilla gracilis
Thuridilla splendens
Trinchesia sp. 8
Patrik Good Congrats, good work. The variety of Thuridilla is exciting. With a few of the species I was not sure if they have just changed their names or if I just haven't come across them yet (eg. had to look Dori-S-prismatica atromarginata up).
Gary Cobb Sorry these suits are D1 species not H1!
Gary Cobb Patrik where did you find the spelling with an 's'? I had a re-look at the paper and it is spelled Doriprismatica, -> no 's'. Thanks! Yes we find quite a few Thuridilla at Flinders Reef.
Jim Anderson Your new suits are the business - I've been diving in one for 10 months, even down to 6 deg C. Not a problem your likely to have.
Gary Cobb Patrik the spelling of Doriprismatica is correct according to the paper.
Gary Cobb Hey Jim so you have a Di Hybrid?? Nice work. I love the suit!
Patrik Good Sorry Gary Cobb. Here the link I got it from: http://clade.ansp.org/obis/search.php/3587
Gary Cobb Patrik I think this site is old. It is saying Dorisprismatica is a synonym.
Gary Cobb I have written to Richard to get verification.
Ashley Missen Is there an email version coming out
Franca Wermuth-Vezzoli Does anybody know how this Phyllidiella pustulosa got these "black pustules" ?
Gary Cobb Yes you're ID is correct. I am pretty sure the blackish area is fish damage. Very rare because this species gives off the equivalent of hydrochloric acid!
Blogie Robillo Is this Phyllidiella pustulosa, Phyllidiella nigra, or something else?
Depth 15.5m @ Hammerhead Alley, Samal Island; length abt 3.5cm; 24 June 2012.
Blogie Robillo From Ashley Missen - Phyllidiopsis burni. Can anyone confirm?
Ashley Missen Thanks for the Faith in my judgement Blogie
Orietta Rivolta Help ID please
Location: Raja Ampat,West papua,Indonesia
Size : 15mm
Depht : 10m
Temperature:30°
Orietta RivoltaPhyllidiella pustulosa ???
Jon Chamberlain I would say so
Gary Cobb I think so too!
Orietta Rivolta Respect Phyllidia,Phyllidiella,Phyllidiopsis are always insicure about ID :-(
Gary Cobb It's all about morphology Orietta!! You should get a copy of Phyllidiid-nudibranchs by Brunckhorst a brilliant piece of work. Let me know if you want a copy (PDF).
Orietta Rivolta Thanks Gary,I would like a copy to recognize them better :-)
Blogie Robillo Is this Phyllidiopsis fissurata? Measured about 3cm long, and found it in 15m of water at Angel's Cove, Talikud Island, Philippines.
Gary Cobb With black rhinophores and compound pustule groups this has to be Phyllidiella pustulosa
Blogie Robillo Oh ok. I actually thought it wasn't P. pustulosa... Those Phyllidiella species are sure tricky!
João Pedro Silva for those who say the "blue chromodorids from the Atlantic" are tricky, I reply "I'm glad we only have one Phyllidiidae."
Blogie Robillo Gary Cobb - Aren't they mostly black? I mean, P. pustulosa.
Gary Cobb They sure are. Try the KEY on our website and see if that helps you. You will see there are some 'anatomical features' you will need to see. http://www.nudibranch.com.au/key/key1.html
Gary Cobb P. pustulosa can be variable and from pink to green to white! Try the key I prepared on our site.
Gary Cobb Hey Joao we have heaps to these Phyllidiids!! FUN!
Gary Cobb DID YOU KNOW! Phyllidiella pustulosa has a very sticky smell. Take one out of the water and rub it...then smell it...YUCK! (then put it back!)
Blogie Robillo Gary - I've seen P. pustulosa oozing with a sticky white substance...
Franca Wermuth-Vezzoli Dear nudibase users
I plan to do a photo book with my nudibranch pictures, but with some Phyllididae I am not sure I did the right identification, so I copied them to my facebook album. If anybody has some time, could you check my identifications? I would appreciate comments there a lot.
Thanks in advance
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151252973714669.511791.674329668&type=1&l=595f36235b
Franca Wermuth-Vezzoli I know they're lots of Phyllididae, but can maybe somebody check the Phyllidiella pustulosas and picture nr 64? Thanks for your help!
Gary Cobb Phyllidia babai
Erwin Koehler I don't know how to comment on a picture in this album,
I checked most of them and wrote already a comment, also on
Phyllidiopsis striata Bergh, 1889 which has gone to nowhere,
I am already very(!) angry about facebook because of many other reasons, enough now!
Zumindest auf dem LINK sind deutsche Kommentare, so sollte Datenschutz kein Fremdwort sein, fuer facebook schon! Ist ja auch eine US Firma!
Franca Wermuth-Vezzoli I'm sorry my album caused more anger for you! I don't really know what happened - the album should be "public" and therefore comments for the public should be possible. But I'm not sure if the comments are possible. Sorry for the trouble.